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We celebrate a closed communion for the immediate church membership only, with unleavened bread and 'fruit of the vine' (i.e., not wine).
This is done once per quarter.
One can defend the approach as very biblical, but some have a tendency to get into a mode of 'that is our exegesis, and all others are bogus by definition' to which I fall short of subscribing.
One prays for the return of Christ to settle all of the thumb-wrestling. ;)
I love the fact that we celebrate weekly, and I love the format because it feels more like a communal meal than other formats I have experienced. I sometimes wish we used actual wine, and I also think that the use of individual tiny cups takes away from the symbolic value of the single cup - but I have to watch that I don't allow myself to get into too much of a critical spirit.
I do know of another PCA church in the area that celebrates the Lord's Supper as a meal, as you described in your blog post, though I have never attended.
One of those services (usually the first weekend of the new year) is different than the other three. That's an AGAPE feast. We do it outside of the regular worship time, usually Friday night. We have nicely decorated tables set up in the fellowship hall and there's as much bread and grape juice as you want. We sit around and tell God Stories (what God is doing in our lives right now). We also have a time to do actual footwashing. It's a great service.
The other three are a bit more traditional. During the worship time with small bits of bread and thimble of juice. We still take time to wash one another's feet (although no one is forced to do that). While the bread and juice are being distributed we have a roving wireless mic so people in the congregation can share a short God story.
That's how we do it.
I disagree that opening something to innovation is bad. I think tradition lends itself to a hardness of heart and forgetting the meaning behind the tradition. Jesus roundly criticized the Pharisees for their traditions - please be careful, brother.
In services, our church does it by intinction. We usually have four couples up front serving and we all line up sort of like cattle and file through, pulling off a piece of bread and dipping it in the cup. It really isn't too bad as a recipient but I recently was one of the servers for the first time and I hated it. I felt like I was on an assembly line.
Except for one thing ... the first person in line at my "station", rather than dipping her bread, took the cup from my hands and drank deeply from it. My first reaction was to wrestle her to the floor for the cup, all the while screaming, "Look lady, that's not how we do it here!" But then, as I relinquished the cup, it was a beautiful scene to watch her drinking in His fullness and power and blood.
Not sure what the others behind her in line thought about it though ...
We also, like some of you, have a loaf of bread which we breake, which picturises the sacrifice of life. There was a leaf, there is broken one. I am really happy for all those churches, who do it this way, becouse this is what was intended (1Cor 10:16-17). Using those small pre-prepared bits again, shows, each one has got it's own small loaf of bread and no participation in one great loaf, thata was broken for us.
Basically, I think many problems of US church would be fixed if only you would back to biblical way of celebrating this ordinance. It would teach you - simply as it was intended to do it - through it's celebration the nature of grace. ALL Scriture should be followed - especially Christ's ordinances!!!
As one in whose life alcohol has played a devastating role, I am also grateful for the grape juice. I would not be able to drink wine if it were offered (the smell of alcohol makes me sick to my stomach).
you see, your arguments are pragamatical and esthetical. The problem I see with it is that both pragmaticism and esthetic should be subdued to the greter cause of picturing grace during Lords Supper. Also, I see nothing wrong in isolating unbelivers - this is the way they learn the basic
distinction that exists and once will be seen in the sharpest possible way - faithfull to the Lord and those, who are not. I see no profit in being gracious to those, who should be exhorted. As to your stomach, certianly the Lord will teach you how to drink wine with gratefulness , since it's His
ordination. Maybe it is also a question of quality of wine. If it is very dry, it could couse some
problems. But there is no necessity of using dry wine. In our church we use a delicate semi-dry or semi-sweet. Noone had anytime any problems
Thank you again for your response. It is exciting to me to be able to speak with you although you are so far away. I wonder what city in Poland you are from?
Our church celebrates communion every week and in differing ways. Most of the time, people get out of their seats and go to where the little cracker bits and plastic cups are in trays. Still, it's different from passing down the aisle; our way tends to encourage more interaction. It's still pretty quiet/reflective, though; I tend to like that, but I also tend to want something different from time to time. We also pass the tray about once a quarter, or have individuals serve the sacraments to each other while saying a short blessing ("The body of Christ, broken for you; His blood, shed for you").
I like all of them for different reasons. The only thing I don't like in other churches I've attended is not celebrating communion weekly. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms!
But, whether or not we enjoy it is irrelevant. What does scripture say? (And for his focus, I enjoyed Mateusz's post. I think he's right about the one loaf thing per 1 Cor 10:17) Jude 12 refers to the Christian gatherings as "Love Feasts," as does early church history. 1 Cor 11:17-34 clearly describes that the cup and loaf are to be taken as part of a full meal. This is how, when the full meal is done without waiting for everyone (v 33), some people were getting drunk and other's were going home hungry. Hence, communal communion is not an seeker sensitive innovation, but implicit in Paul's commands. Also implicit in the text is that the Lord's supper was part of every church gathering. (As of now, my church does not do this every time, but I like to comment on that when I am with them, as a loving nudge.)
With all that said, even if I do think it is a biblical command to eat the Lord's supper as a full meal, I do not mean to be divisive. Christ is our bond and boast and our sanctification, not how we do any church practice.
For those interested in a detailed article on the topic, you can go to
http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php...
Although I might not be 100% on board with everything the author says, the Lord gave me a beautiful picture of the Lord's supper when I first read it.
I am amazed about God love. I am a sinner saved by His grace, there are many time I have doubt in why God love me. Thank Jesus for His love that show on calvary cross.
I prayed to God to stay connected & with the help Holy spirit, things that I have doubt will make me bow my knee when He answer my prayer.
If anyone feel that is He not there for you. You can pray to God, ask Him yourself. He who believe in Jesus call upon His name. God already written His promise in John 1:12 . He is our Father in heaven to whom that believe.
I give thank to God for the Holy spirit that wake me up for prayer in the morning at 4am, when storm of my life in near. I will pray & pray, He will restore me (Psalm 23).
read the Lord's prayer. (Thy will be done). Peace be with you. In Jesus name I pray, Amen
As a 52 year old life long Catholic, I could not participate in any other form of worship and praise. I invite all of you to explore the faith that our Lord Jesus gave to us. You will be fulfilled!
My preference for Holy Communion is the one found in Scriptures.
In my church, we come in small group in reverence and kneel in front of the Altar after the Liturgy must have been followed throughout the Communion Service. The priest gives each communicant unleavened bread - circular wafer and we all take a sip from the same cup of Communion wine, with a repeated statement- Body of Christ (for the bread) and Blood of Christ(for the wine).
This ceremony must be familiar to "old style" Anglicans. I always feel that I am taking the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ which was shed for me on Calvary, and that I am following His injunction to "DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME". Any modern interpretation of this will not do for me.
Holy Communion is available daily in my church. It is done with such solemnity similar to what must have taken place on the night that this great feast was inaugurated by Jesus Christ Himself.
I think the anemic way in which we celebrate communion is indicative of the anemic way we do church: passive, unfeeling, anonymous, spectatorish
You cause grass to grow for the livestock and plants for people to use.
You allow them to produce food from the earth—wine to make them glad,
olive oil to soothe their skin, and bread to give them strength.
Notice what it says about bread and wine. Jesus was mistakenly called a lush
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners."
My Baptist friends are going to have a problem in the new world. When the wine is poured they're going to be saying, "no thanks, I'm a Christian"
Isaiah 25: On this mountain the LORD Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine— the best of meats and the finest of wines
The problem is sin and weakness, not wine. All the warnings in the Bible are about drinking and eating too much. And isn't it interesting about all the health benefits and disease prevention being discovered about olive oil, whole grain bread and wine.
Here's what Paul tells the Baptist Timothy in 1 Timothy 5:23
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
I agree with you that the problem may be sin and weakness. And I do believe Paul had something to say about what he would do if his actions would cause a brother or sister to stumble.
Communion does not have to be actual wine & one loaf of bread to be meaningful & glorify the Lord. And I am so glad!
Greetings from Church of God in Oman. Dear Brthren, Surely I am so fortunate to browse through your article and thank you for the opprtunity to comment.
Since the bread and the drink at the Lord's table are symbolizing the Lord's broken body and shed blood, one should reverently use a substance of same characteristic qualities. The bread should be prepared bearing in mind the broken body of our Lord and not to use the one from the Bakery which is stacked for the purpose of sale tor the public. His deciples prepared for the Passover.Our Lord was with out any sin/ blemish. The very unleavened bread symbolizes that fact.At the last supper he got up from the supper and took an unleavened Bread (which symbolizes the Messiah/ the living bread which came from heaven) and broke it with thanksgiving saying this is my body take and eat in rememberance of me. The same way he also took the cup and blessed it and gave to his disciple to share it. Today many of the modern church believes that if one sips from the same cup he may get sick rather than healing. Thereby they sow the seed of unbelief at the very communion time which was meant for healing and restoration as we participate.
As mentioned in the article while participating one should really meditate upon the suffering of our Lord and discern the Lord's body which was broken for us. It's appropriate to read and meditate the relavant scripture portions rather than doing it in a hurry just for the sake of doing. For it is the most important time of the worship. may God open the eyes of our understanding inorder to remember the Lord's suffering and death for us according to the scriptures.Examine the scripture (Is 34:16 , 2 Tim 3:16 ) we will find the right manner of doing the Lord's table. for the scripture is our blue print for the guidance in all areas of a believer's life while on this earth.
I would say that there have been a TOTAL of 4 times that it has really been meaningful to me any more than just a ritual. One was the first time my parents let me take it after I was saved and the others were ones where someone, after a big group meal, took a loaf of bread and some wine (or grape juice) and drew our attention to Christ's death and passed around the loaf and poured us all a FULL glass to eat and drink together. They were the best desserts I've ever had.